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Is it possible to help out Hurricane victims?
Poll: Is it possible to lessen the effects of harmful weather? Yes 20% [ 5 ] Yes, but it would require more members then we have 52% [ 13 ] No 20% [ 5 ] No, it would probably kill the members who tried to harness that much energy. 8% [ 2 ] Total Votes : 25
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Posted on Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:49 pm
Lasher Joined: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 64	Of course it is, why wouldn't it be realistic? On a scale of difficulty, what really outranks what here? A psiball? Or a gigantic storm system? Regardless of whether or not it's pessimistic, it's the truth. But I'm going to agree with you; there is never any "impossible". Though something might be more improbable, as long as there's any chance, it's good enough for me. Back to queir_weir; If you're going to try it or practice, go for it! It's never been done before, so there's always a first for everything. But since it's never been done before, I can only guess and make suggestions as to where to start, but then it's up to you to test them. I would say the prequisites would be; The ability for everyone participating to establish connection without difficulty and maintain it with easily. The main thing I think would be to take it easy at first, meaning extremely low amounts of energy transfer, depending on how many people are doing it. Safety is paramount. Try having the most adept out the group be the so-called channeler (Most control over psi, conentration, focus, etc). But remember to take it slow and easy. The main thing is to experiment around and see what works and what doesn't, record it, go over it, and study it. But do so safely and don't overdo anything. And tell us the results
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Posted on Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:25 pm
randywm Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 510	Just use common sense. I mean just because you believe you can do it doesnt mean you can do it. Most people here can only move the psiwheel. We wouldnt be able to help in any noticable way. Why dont you just go over there and help with the cleanup if your so interested in helping? My business is willing to fly me down there and pay me more to help with the cleanup, and im thinking about it. Try to find out ways to help besides practicing psionics for a couple years.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:28 am
queir_weir Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 22	Ahh what ever Apollo sry for my rude comment. Yah your more relistic and i knew that but, i just wanted i guess, positive suggestions i guess lol. Neveza right it is different to control weather than it is to control psi, but it can be done, or at least on a small scale. You just have to use the psi to control the weather.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:34 am
neveza Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 1147	Lasher wrote: Of course it is, why wouldn't it be realistic? On a scale of difficulty, what really outranks what here? A psiball? Or a gigantic storm system? Regardless of whether or not it's pessimistic, it's the truth. But I'm going to agree with you; there is never any "impossible". Though something might be more improbable, as long as there's any chance, it's good enough for me. Oh, of course, It's so realistic, How can I be such a fool on how you ,of all people, know the mighty truth of what is harder or more advance. It's not truth, you're just using logic, logic can fail at times. You don't know if making a psiball is harder then controlling weather, unless you know the mechanics of psi or how psychokinesis works. Therefore it's not realistic idea.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:45 am
Apollo Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1589	i AM a pessimist. Proud of it. That is reality. Lasher beat me to my big post so read his. PS: neveza just trys to argue with me every time
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:07 am
queir_weir Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 22	yes well i will definatly be carefull when practicing. And unfortunatly i do not have the resourses to fly down and help so sorry. Unfortunaly i will have to do most of it by my self becasue there is only one other psionic that i know in my area. I also find that i am better at telepathy rather then telekenisis (which i think i would require to try this seriously).
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:18 am
bladeslinger Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 1337	Still Apollo has a point....and queir_weir you don't have to say shut up...a "please stop" would do if you're pointing out pesimism. (sp?)
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:26 am
PK_11 Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 142	In "what the bleep" it describes a group of people who collectively meditated to lower the rate of crime in washington dc 25%. Compared to changing thousands of people's thought systems, moving a cloud doesn't seem very hard.
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:46 pm
lvl_1_psi_power Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 87	Apollo wrote: in all realness, if we cannot even band together and flare a psiball in stony's room, never is anyone going to affect weather. Your depressing T.T We'll have more people But if it doesnt work think how many psions will die... we should start small like real small I've said this be4 but, we could just make a gigantic sheild...
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:04 pm
PK_11 Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 142	...or, collectively meditate on it. That'll do the same thing, naturally. And without people dying.
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:17 pm
freakinrican626 Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 514	Lasher wrote: Of course it is, why wouldn't it be realistic? On a scale of difficulty, what really outranks what here? A psiball? Or a gigantic storm system? Regardless of whether or not it's pessimistic, it's the truth. But I'm going to agree with you; there is never any "impossible". Though something might be more improbable, as long as there's any chance, it's good enough for me. Back to queir_weir; If you're going to try it or practice, go for it! It's never been done before, so there's always a first for everything. But since it's never been done before, I can only guess and make suggestions as to where to start, but then it's up to you to test them. I would say the prequisites would be; The ability for everyone participating to establish connection without difficulty and maintain it with easily. The main thing I think would be to take it easy at first, meaning extremely low amounts of energy transfer, depending on how many people are doing it. Safety is paramount. Try having the most adept out the group be the so-called channeler (Most control over psi, conentration, focus, etc). But remember to take it slow and easy. The main thing is to experiment around and see what works and what doesn't, record it, go over it, and study it. But do so safely and don't overdo anything. And tell us the results i'm goin with lasher. you've failed once you don't believe. yes it would take a lot of work but what i think is the improbability is the fact that many just won't have enough willpower to get pass the magnitude of trying to stop a huricane. not that the hurricane is improbable to stop; it's starting the training thats improbable.
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:10 pm
pepsiboy Joined: 25 Jun 2006 Posts: 562	monks reach the peaks of meditation. have they tried to effect nature in supernatural ways?
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:11 pm
FinallyEffingJoined Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 223	pepsiboy wrote: monks reach the peaks of meditation. have they tried to effect nature in supernatural ways? I'd say the best way to find the answer to this question would be to google it, or other sorts of research.
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Posted on Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:26 pm
freakinrican626 Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 514	i agree with you when you say monks reach meditation peaks. the monks that pop into my head immediately are buddhist or zen buddhist monks. a zen buddhist monk wouldn't try to effect nature in supernatural ways depending on how the situation is built. since he's mastered meditation he's most likely mastered the ideology of zen buddhism, which would not necessarily call for helping others in that sort of way. I say again it does depend on how the situation is built. Tibetan Buddhists or Mahayanna buddhists I can see doing something like that, but (i say again) since they've master mediation they've also mastered their ideologies and those ideologies say they must be humble. So lets say they do stop a hurricane, they wouldn't tell anyone because to them that would be considered braggin, aka not being humble. I don't think you'd be able to google and find an answer since they probably know that telling someone outside of their community, that person would not believe them. (when i say outside of their community I mean those who don't understand their way of life and/or live a way of life that is near or completely opposite to theirs and would not be able to graps this kind of achievement and truly believe it occured)
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