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Posted on Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:04 am

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Flamester wrote:

Apollo wrote:

you guys, no offense to diokhan but dont believe everything you see/hear. People lie. I am not saying that diokhan lied (not attacking you) but this is a perfect opportunity to say this. Do not believe everything. First Criss Angel. NO!

Ah u just put a big dent in my belief to do the levitation. NOOOOO dam it now i might nor be able to do it Sad

If one person can change your mind about something, then you didnt believe it in the first place.

Good Point on Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:21 pm

Flamester

Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 48

Apollo wrote:

Flamester wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Ah u just put a big dent in my belief to do the levitation. NOOOOO dam it now i might nor be able to do it Sad

If one person can change your mind about something, then you didnt believe it in the first place.

Good point, but still levitation is possible right?

Posted on Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:35 pm

Rahmid

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 739

wow, apollo and vincent jsut said teh same exact thing...wierd...

Just had to point that out.

TP much, lol

Rahmid

Re: Good Point on Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:21 am

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

Flamester wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Flamester wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Ah u just put a big dent in my belief to do the levitation. NOOOOO dam it now i might nor be able to do it Sad

If one person can change your mind about something, then you didnt believe it in the first place.

Good point, but still levitation is possible right?

If you're able to move the whole weight of the object up, then yes. If every other motion is possible (spinning, sliding, etc.), then why not levitation too?

Posted on Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:00 pm

Droshi

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 89

vincent wrote:

Flamester wrote:

Ah u just put a big dent in my belief to do the levitation. NOOOOO dam it now i might nor be able to do it Sad

If one person can shake your belief then I don't think you could've done it to begin with.

Belief has nothing to do with your ability in psychokinesis.

Apollo's comment was correct.

Posted on Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:49 pm

mewhywhy

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 10

MMMMHH

i think we found oure first person that can acctuly levitate Wink

and is taping it :O

gz m8 im gonne try youre thecniq evryday becuase its true what he says even tough only 1 coner will go up at 1st time :O

lets all try it and have fun

BTW we want movieee Razz

or we cry

Posted on Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:30 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

mewhywhy wrote:

MMMMHH

i think we found oure first person that can acctuly levitate Wink

and is taping it :O

gz m8 im gonne try youre thecniq evryday becuase its true what he says even tough only 1 coner will go up at 1st time :O

lets all try it and have fun

BTW we want movieee Razz

or we cry

English please?

Posted on Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:19 pm

Droshi

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 89

mewhywhy wrote:

MMMMHH

i think we found oure first person that can acctuly levitate Wink

and is taping it :O

gz m8 im gonne try youre thecniq evryday becuase its true what he says even tough only 1 coner will go up at 1st time :O

lets all try it and have fun

BTW we want movieee Razz

or we cry

Wow, and I thought spellcheck was for the occasional word. Is that on purpose? I can't even tell.

Posted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:28 am

vincent

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

Droshi wrote:

Belief has nothing to do with your ability in psychokinesis.

Apollo's comment was correct.

This is my opinion of course, but I believe that if you don't believe in Psionics it would put a mental "barrier" on your abilities. I just don't see how it could work if you're constantly thinking to yourself "this isn't going to work, this isn't possible, why am I even trying."

Posted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:47 am

terrancoleman

Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 102

i agree with vincent belief is a big part of telekinesis

Posted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:35 am

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

I agree with mewhywhy that we will all cry if no video is made.

Posted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:10 pm

Droshi

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 89

vincent wrote:

Droshi wrote:

Belief has nothing to do with your ability in psychokinesis.

Apollo's comment was correct.

The reason is that it worked for me. Now I had a willingness to actually practice for 3 weeks straight until I saw results, but a belief that it would work was not what I had. At best I had a "maybe."

Also just to note, if you don't think your muscles will grow but you lift weights in a correct interval and you eat right they most certianly will. The basic point I will like to make is that your subconscious doesn't really care what the conscious part of you thinks much. Most people think of a lot of random and retarded crap all day. Which should it listen to? Anyway everyone has the ability, but only practice actually helps to convince the subconscious to let your conscious mind use that ability.

One other thing I would like to mention is...try doing a test for yourself. Believe that you can move your car while it is in neutral, and then go try it. How much did belief help you there? Then try moving it by practicing for months, and see how well you have progressed with smaller objects. Also check out my post in the Personal Techniques forum. Smile

Also if you would like to prove to me that your statement is correct you need to provide proof that belief alone CHANGES your ability in telekinesis in some way. I may admit that it may change it in some way, but I don't know that way, and from my experience it is not true. At least when you start out a belief is not nessecary and when you finally move it to where you convince yourself that you are indeed moving it, then you have the belief automatically.

Posted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:29 pm

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

It's easy to argue for both. If you don't believe, then your thoughts are much more self defeating and therefore you may make very little progress. If you just sat there and thought that every movement the psiwheel made was the wind, then you would probably give up and in that way it would have an effect. Other people might practice with a glass and still say it was something else, maybe the moisture in the air causing static electricity making it move, and give up. At the same time, another skeptic may be settled by the glass and continue practice.

Posted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:54 pm

Xenfox

Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Posts: 3

terrancoleman wrote:

i agree with vincent belief is a big part of telekinesis

I heavily agree with this, and not just with tk, with any mystic art.
If you can't believe you can do it, then you literally cannot. It's not just a mental barrier, it simply won't happen even if the barrier is not there.

Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:20 am

Droshi

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 89

Xenfox wrote:

terrancoleman wrote:

i agree with vincent belief is a big part of telekinesis

How was I able to overcome such a sweeping statement? Read my posts above, you can choose to believe what you like, but I had at best a maybe when it came to telekinesis (or anything psionic at the time).

Also the subconscious (in my experience) does not work based on belief. Test it yourself and let me know your results.

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