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Chocolate Urges & PK ?

Poll: Has the urge to eat Chocolate increased since you started PK?

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Total Votes : 39

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Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:38 am

Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

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They said that they can't get through the day without blacking out or something if they don't.

People say a great deal of things on chat forums. Psi vamps seem to be one of the most prone to exaggeration. Your always drawing energy from around yourself so I don't see how it would make much of a difference if that energy came from a person. The only problem I can see is if that person was sick and from those I've spoken to they are adept at filtering the energies they take.

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I personally wouldn't do it because it can lower your ability in psion skills and decreases the amount of psi YOU can have.

Aren't one of the indications of being a psi vamp greater natural psionic skills? The more energy you take into yourself the more your energy body (or whatever you call it) has to develop to process and store that energy.

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Have you ever been on a long trek or walk somewhere and felt so tired you could die? Well, there is always that little bit of energy you can pull out of your ass, isn't there?

This is because your constantly taking energy from your surroundings anyway. Be it the trees or the earth your standing on, whenever I'm out in nature I can feel the energy around me. Whats the difference between drawing energy from a tree and drawing from a person? In both cases the energy isn't "yours".

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It's like a drug, once you've tasted it, you don't want to go cold turkey (blackout/fatigue).

It may seem that way but if your body has got used to operating at a higher level of energy when you stop drawing in so much energy you will feel tired and sluggish. Any energy where ever it comes from feels nice because its the stuff that makes us up and sustains us. Nothing against whoever your friend is but that blackout thing sounds like an exaggeration.

Sorry for dragging this off topic. Does anyone know where my off button is? Embarassed

Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:04 am

psi_manipulator_3000

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 1274

Dakova wrote:

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I personally wouldn't do it because it can lower your ability in psion skills and decreases the amount of psi YOU can have.

I meant that it can naturally lower it, as in, when you have vamped loads and then you are getting tireder and tireder because of the "drug" effect, and then you try doing pk or anything when you haven't vamped for a while, you won't be able to do it aswell, unless you vamp again. That's the dependent thing I was on about. Hope that made sense Confused

And we should probs get off this topic again, starting to sound like chickens again...

Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:36 am

ahmed1

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 367

all that is exaggeration , i tryed psi vampire and no defferance and all people come with alot of things from its mind . maybe i did not take enough time to know well or maybe even i did not succed but all that talk is exaggeration .

yea that is off topic but if we still get good information , i think it is ok .

Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:38 pm

Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

Of course your going to be able to do PK better when you've just vamped because you have more energy to perform it. When you haven't charged yourself with energy from a source you'll find your abilities weaker. This doesn't prove your suddenly dependant on vamping this just means that your dependant on energy. Your posts suggest you think this is unique to human sources when its not. If you stopped drawing energy from somewhere you'd soon find your abilities fading.

The drug effect you talk about is your body getting used to a higher level of energy. Then when you stop drawing your body has to start getting used to less which makes you feel tired and fatigued. You seem to take this as some sign of a druglike addiction. The same happens when you exercise regularly and then stop. Your body is used to the higher level of activity so you start feeling restless and out of sorts when you do nothing.

Do you get what I'm trying to say or do you want to pick a thread where we can discuss this without sounding like chickens?

Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:26 pm

ahmed1

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 367

hmm i got idea across my mind , when i started doing tk and pk i started to eat less , somedays i eat half what i always eat and maybe less then that so i think without we think about psi vampire or maybe call it psi draining or call it getting energy from outside and outside maybe is human and maybe just energy from natural or sun or maybe any other thing , we get energy from outside without even thinking of drain anyone energy.

so you can make physical work and you need to get energy and you get energy from physical thing ( foods ).

you do mental work and you need to get energy and you get energy from energy around you mentaly.

that is idea not completly sure of it but i start to believe in it Smile

Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:27 pm

xforever

Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 54

I can't drink milk, therefore, i can't really eat cholocate, and I hate cholocate too.

YUK!

Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:44 pm

Rahmid

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 739

Yes, of course you take some energy from everything around you. But consiously taking a large quantity of energy from some one, is stealing. And not like taking a couple bucks from them, it could screw them. You dont know what they needed the energy for, you dont know if taking that energy could have tipped the scale and turned thier day into a bad one. And for wahat? The benefit of moving a peice of paper on a pin, or just having a lil more energy? Thats selfish, and really wrong anyway you look at it.

And it's combat.

And it needs to be stop being promoted.

Rahmid

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:33 am

Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

If you read my response to you properly you'd have read that I agreed with you about people taking too much energy from one person being wrong (in my opinion) Skimming off the top of a group however is barely noticed and has no adverse effects. You seem to be demonising anyone that takes energy from other people because of the bad examples of a few. Also in your first post that I responded to, you sounded like you put some universal moral implications on something that isn't governed by morals. Energy has no morals.

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But consiously taking a large quantity of energy from some one, is stealing. And not like taking a couple bucks from them, it could screw them.

How exactly? they could die? Bit melodramatic don't you think?

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Thats selfish, and really wrong anyway you look at it.

I'd be interested to know what you think about drawing energy from nature then? In your own reasoning that energy isn't yours. What gives you the right to take it? Are you a vegetarian? I'd laugh if you spouted all this and then turned off your computer and went to eat your nice juicy rump steak.

I'm not promoting combat and psi vampirism, I'm just trying to promote logical thought.

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:35 am

psi_manipulator_3000

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 1274

Well, there is a big downside to vamping. How do you know that the energy you are taking from someone isn't negative energy? That person could be ready to kill someone or could be hugely depressed. That aint good energy to have, especially if it's alien to your body.
And about the energy taking from the plants etc, our bodies create their own energy in way more amounts than plants. So the energy we subconciously take from plants is much smaller compared to the energy we biologically make. It's only when we conciuosly make the attempt to drain energy from plants that it becomes stealing. Stealing is a concious act, so therfore, when you take energy from plants without meaning to, it is not considered stealing, but vamping from people is.
And just for the record, you can also take energy from objects.
BTW, has anyone tried drawing energy from a stretched elastic band or any other object that contains that type of potential or stress energy? Would the elastic band not ping back into shape???

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:38 am

Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

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Well, there is a big downside to vamping. How do you know that the energy you are taking from someone isn't negative energy?

I said.

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The only problem I can see is if that person was sick and from those I've spoken to they are adept at filtering the energies they take.

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It's only when we conciuosly make the attempt to drain energy from plants that it becomes stealing.

So when I'm walking through the woods drawing in the energy there I'm stealing? Awww poor plants. Your getting in to subjective views that have no right answer.

Your perception of stealing is your point of view. Some people will think its wrong to take energy from another (even responsibly) and others will think its not. My problem is when you suggest that anyone who dares partake in these practices will end up as some kind of psionic junkie. Or in Rahmids case with his DEFINETLY combat, DEFINETLY not good. These are your subjective views and to spread them as fact is misinformation.

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:46 am

psi_manipulator_3000

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 1274

Dakova wrote:

Your perception of stealing is your point of view.

I completely disagree and I've never heard anyone say that before, either.
It is fact that if you take something that is not yours, it is stealing it. Now, you're probably thinking, well what about stealing subconciuossly? Taking energy from living organisms with our body is natural and almost uncontrolable. You walk through a forest and leech off trees without knowing it, that can't be helped. But as soon as you take it on purpose, it would be considered stealing. It is different for energy. If you steal and product from a shop accidentely, it is stealing, but shoplifting isn't really a natural thing for the human body to function, is it?

Your statement is true for good and evil, but not for stealing. That's like saying that your perception of playing the paino is your point of view. Point of view is for topics like religion. Stealing is a one way thing. I have never heard a criminal arugue that taking a bannana from a store was not stealing because he couldn't help it and he was hungry. He will still get screwed for it.

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:21 pm

DamianM

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

how do you even take energy from other people? is it the same as taking energy from everything else? im just curious, im not going to steal from people.

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:07 pm

Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

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Some people will think its wrong to take energy from another (even responsibly) and others will think its not.

That sentence pretty much explains what I meant, don't you think?

I'm aware of what stealing is. Thats fine though I'll rephrase it for you. Your perception concerning the morals of stealing is your point of view.

DamianM: Yes its the same as taking energy from anything else. Although those that are wise usually filter the energies they take to avoid any harmful energies.

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:39 pm

Rahmid

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 739

Lol, yeah accually I've been a vegetarain for a year and a half. hahaha

But i'm done trying to persuade you. We're both never going to change, so no huge point of beating it to death. I still say it's really wrong and shouldn't be spread around especially here where it's against the rules to do so.

No hard feelings

Rahmid

Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:03 pm

Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

Yes its very generous of you to let me slink away defeated. Where in my posts have I promoted the use of psi vampirism in anything but a responsible way? Combat to me suggests trying to harm someone with intent. I'd hardly classify skimming energy of people harmful. I've said nothing thats against the rules.

I'm a veggie too and don't need to take energy from anyone. Maybe if you took the time to actually read my posts properly, you'd find that this whole discussion that you seem to find so bothersome could have been averted. You can try to take the moral high ground all you want but your act is transparent to me.

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