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Posted on Mon May 01, 2006 1:18 am

an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

Dealing in plain sight teaches how real wisdom creates answers (fall into palms).Yes the record does say explanations aquire rereads. Rare stones are before after an during your eyes so find them.
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Posted on Mon May 01, 2006 1:36 am

jaci

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 32

Quote:
Dealing in plain sight teaches how real wisdom creates answers (fall into palms).Yes the record does say explanations aquire rereads. Rare stones are before after an during your eyes so find them.


Alright, I'm unlikely to respond to any more of your posts because it's not going to be constructive and will just end up with getting a topic locked. Just a thought though, I'd work on your grammer if you want to sound knowledgeable even if you're trying to be obscure.
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Posted on Mon May 01, 2006 8:00 am

psionic_velociraptor

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 137

he talks like a philosofist, i do understand but i need to reread is posts more then twice,yet some of them i find hard to understand

anyways back on topic:in cases of "most intelligent"animals we have dogs, different spiecis of primates,dolphins they are among teh smartest animals but,im sure there's more cats are generally quite inteligent

iguanas too,mine learned how to open the terrarium just by seeing me do it,i belive its true they learn things better through body language then words or explenations

i used to have a dog and a cat, my dog learned how to open doors because he saw my cat doin it and my present dog cant open doors very well,she undertands the meaning of pointing...when i show her my empty hands,she understand tehyr empty and starts searching for whatever i hid from her
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Posted on Tue May 02, 2006 12:15 pm

Vladimir

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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an_St uses words combinations that he thinks sound smart, but he doesn't seem to realise he's using incorrect grammar.

My advice: ignore him.
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Posted on Tue May 02, 2006 12:24 pm

psionic_velociraptor

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 137

what the hell does he want to say with all that??

if i'd give you a flower and asked you what do you see would you call it flower, or would you say a bunch of words that means the exact same thing as 'flower'
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Posted on Tue May 02, 2006 12:36 pm

Vladimir

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 666

The way I see it, if you're smart, type smart if you want. an_St may be smart for all we know, but he's not got the grammar skills to type in that way.

Tailor your speech patterns to your own linguistic skill and preference. More importantly, linguistic skill.
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Posted on Tue May 02, 2006 12:44 pm

psionic_velociraptor

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 137

i understood what you said,he talks smart but is grammar is weak,

im not calling myself smart, i cant make up speaches like that yet i understand them badly but i do.

hmm arent we going off-topic here? anyway,his grammar is indeed bad and i can tell because im not englsh myself.
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Posted on Thu May 04, 2006 10:10 am

Zemeon

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 269

I dont like this because no one can understand an st's posts.
I am actually native to Germany and I have never made a mistake on my posts. Not grammar-wise either.

I have actually been able to get into the mind of an animal. Quite stupid Laughing .
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Posted on Thu May 04, 2006 10:36 am

psionic_velociraptor

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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really?? what does an animal think??"whata bunch of retards call themselves smart??"
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Posted on Fri May 05, 2006 12:41 am

jaci

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 32

zemeon wrote:
I have actually been able to get into the mind of an animal. Quite stupid Laughing .


I've pulled out 2 references from a quick internet search. I picked on birds as a topic since a lot of people tend to believe the "bird brain" stereotype. Not all animals are "stupid" even when trying to use human type intelligence as a reference:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ss/stories/s487635.htm
"Twenty five years of research has shown that grey parrots have the cognitative intelligence equal to a 6.5 year old child and communication skills equal to a 2+ year old child

http://www.princeton.edu/~asifg/braindiversity/Emery%20-%20Cognitive%20Ornithology.pdf
...corvids and parrots, which have forebrains relatively the same size as apes, live in complex social groups and have a long developmental period before becoming independent, have demonstrated ape-like
intelligence....."
"This is discussed with respects torecent investigations of two supposedly unique aspects of human cognition; episodic memory and theory of mind. In reviewing the evidence for avian intelligence, corvids and parrots appear to be cognitively superior to other birds and in many cases even apes. This suggests that complex cognition has evolved in species with very different brains through a process of convergent evolution rather than shared ancestry..."
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Posted on Fri May 05, 2006 7:00 am

psionic_velociraptor

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 137

wow thats amazing...i wonder if the dromeaosaurids or velociraptors were that inteligent since they're also birds,there have been so many stuff about the raptor intelligence and what they were capable of. Jurassic park played alot with they'r inteligence making them talk with each other,setting traps,being so organised,'SMILING'like the raptor did in the first jurassic park...and problem solving inteligence

i wonder if they were actually that intelligent after all
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Posted on Fri May 05, 2006 4:14 pm

Valentine

Joined: 05 May 2006
Posts: 4

Im not much of a freudian but "Some" of what he says may well be right.

In basic terms ( for those who dont know) our sub-concious (Or Unconcious) consists of 3 parts. ( Bare in mind this is simplified a fair bit )

The Id
The Ego
The Super Ego

The Id is the most basic area, I want this, I need that and it has to be now! (Animals certainly have this too) (sometimes called the 'Child' part of sub concious)

The Ego is a more rational part, it works with the Id and the Super Ego in order to please the Id whilst keeping long term consequence in mind. ( The 'Adult' part of the sub concious)

The Super Ego is a largley Moral part. (it has 2 subsystems but they arent really relevant to the point) The super-ego always wants to perfect, even if its impossible to do so.


The point here is, assuming Freud is correct, animals may well have an Id, A pack of wolves, for example, will not steal food from each other. The Id would not care about breaking the pack but the Super-Ego most certainly would. The Id and Super-Ego cannot exist without the ego to balance them out.

Anyway, perhaps a little far-fetched but, if true, then animals would almost certainly be able exhibit telepathic behaviour to some degree.

Just a theory based on a theory anyway. (hides from potential flaming)
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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 5:59 pm

an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

Taking a slower approach this time I feel what Valentine said about an Id and super ego unable to exist apart from the ego not accurate. Correct me if I?m wrong but that?s enlightenment.
Anyways rolling with the idea that animals have an Id would it be safe to assume telepathic suggestions work on non-humans?
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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 6:16 pm

psionic_velociraptor

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 137

i think it would work.
i dontb know i dont trust the concept that only humans have inteligent

how come dinosaurs survived for miillions of years without technoligy and such and we humans to live a mere 100.000 years need all this stuff

anyways,animals might have ID, i few days i went to a place where they kept horses and they had a horse tide to a holder, and i felt like the horse was mad because he was stuck, he tryed to realease himslef but he couldnt, so i was probebly mad at his keeper for tiding him into teh wall

yesterday i was retourning home i saw a bunch of birds on the ground chirping at each other i could feel they were arguing for some reason

perhaps animals too have a consciousness,rationality and inteligent but its sort of "design" for they'r needs we werent the first animals on earth to that learend how to construct, how to choose concepts, and use tools

ants builded theyr own hives even before humans beggin to walk straight.

birds learned how to use tools teh same way primates use them now-a-days
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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 6:35 pm

an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

And my grammar is bad? lol

Anyways your string of sentences reminds me of an idea from The Seat of the Soul (a good read) about non-humans having one consciousness. To add sense to that I mean that specific animals all share one. i.e. all dogs share the single dog consciousness. Not saying its true though...any thoughts?
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