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Posted on Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:55 am

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

way to try and be really philosophical about it, fatguy.

If you look up to someone, you don't really look down on yourself, you just acknowledge that you're not perfect, and that you'd like to improve certain aspects of yourself. Those aspects are usually held in your desired quantity by whoever you look up to.
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Posted on Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:02 pm

sawyerhickory

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 85

shenlon, I'd agree that Hitler could compete for most charismatic leader, but if you study his militry tactics, he was a shitty general. Which is how he ended up getting beaten like a drum from both sides. Plus of course, he was just kinda a bad man whereas Julius Caesar was an early proponent of a lot of liberal ideas that are common practice today (like basic civil rights).
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Posted on Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:31 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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People have this big idea that Hitler was 100% evil. Not so.

You know Volkswagen? It was started in the 1930s, under Hitler's regime. He said he'd introduce affordable cars. The result? The Volkswagen, the "people's car".

He also said he would introduce a trans-German roadway (ie. a highway going through all of Germany). Ever heard of the Autoban? That's it.

Hitler's actually the only leader I can think of who fulfilled every single one of his election promises. Unfortunately, once he did that, he went to war on two fronts, massacred millions of people, and got himself owned. Sad end for someone who actually went through on his election promises...
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Posted on Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:57 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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Shit, if strategy gamers were to team up with the hackers, they could easily take control of the military Very Happy
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Posted on Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:06 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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sgtpsion wrote:
way to try and be really philosophical about it, fatguy.

If you look up to someone, you don't really look down on yourself, you just acknowledge that you're not perfect, and that you'd like to improve certain aspects of yourself. Those aspects are usually held in your desired quantity by whoever you look up to.


Bah, I wanted to throw it out there. Your explaination does slightly agree with my statement though.
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Posted on Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:09 am

MartialArtist

Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Posts: 582

Quote:
O... world of misery and pain..
What lessons can you teach to me..
Is suffering all you please to throw apound my lap...


Suffering is the greatest lesson.
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Posted on Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:58 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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agreed
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Posted on Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:55 am

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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I'm mostly sure that suffering didn't teach love.
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Posted on Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:35 am

MartialArtist

Joined: 03 Feb 2006
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In the end it does. That's why I believe suffering exists in the first place.
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Posted on Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:29 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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Pain is often caused by a lack of love. Therefore, when you want to reduce suffering, you learn to love.
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:28 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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I don't love, and I don't feel pain.

Apparently, contrary to public opinion, not every person has the same mentality.

I learned how to love through the love my parents gave to me as a child. I have also learned how to love through my friends.

None of them ever hurt me to make me learn about love, so how does your statement make sense? You're pessimistic.
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:44 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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I had the same kind of life you had matt (expect my dad was a cult leader). I guess in a way through a lack of love, you learn what is more about pure love......I think I mite have cause more problems Confused
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:02 pm

sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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I meant that, when others get hurt by a lack of love (not neccecarily from you), you learn a greater capacity for love, because you want to reduce their suffering.

I see people get hurt on almost a daily basis, and it's usually because someone I don't know showed a lack of love. As a result, I learn a greater capacity of love through desire to lessen their suffering.
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:09 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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That what it means by this quote
Quote:
"Do not ask for who the bell tones, it tones for thee"

Or something like that.....never really remember it exactly. Basicy what it says is that when someone feels bad we feel it to. We feel the pain of others. I read in a book of babies being able to detect other emotions. Its not till there like 2 years old they see that what they feel are other people emotions.

Ever seen a baby cry? Its not always there own pain.
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Posted on Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:39 pm

sined911

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 198

Tankdown wrote:
That what it means by this quote
Quote:
"Do not ask for who the bell tones, it tones for thee"

Or something like that.....never really remember it exactly. Basicy what it says is that when someone feels bad we feel it to. We feel the pain of others. I read in a book of babies being able to detect other emotions. Its not till there like 2 years old they see that what they feel are other people emotions.

Ever seen a baby cry? Its not always there own pain.


aw when my little cousin was newborn till like 3 she cried whenever she heard or saw someone else cry. this put a harsh hault on my aunts soaps lmao im not even kidding.
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