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Why do female humans live longer than male humans?
Poll: Why do female humans live longer than male humans?
Because they do less strenuous work than men.
5%
5% [ 2 ]
Because they use less sexual energy than men.
0%
0% [ 0 ]
Because they take better care of their bodies.
14%
14% [ 5 ]
Because of nothing, they just do no matter what.
8%
8% [ 3 ]
More than one of these reasons above.
25%
25% [ 9 ]
Other
45%
45% [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 35
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Posted on Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:05 pm

Woodpecker

Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 218

Ok, this whole 'giving birth to eggs' thing is really annoying me. Females LAY EGGS and GIVE BIRTH to LIVE YOUNG. Surely the first thing you learnt about a chicken's eggs was that they were laid? Smile
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Posted on Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:22 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Woodpecker wrote:
Ok, this whole 'giving birth to eggs' thing is really annoying me. Females LAY EGGS and GIVE BIRTH to LIVE YOUNG. Surely the first thing you learnt about a chicken's eggs was that they were laid? Smile


No, I'm sorry.
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:22 pm

derricktheone

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 356

Me and fatguy settled the dispute in private messages. Your too late. Smile
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:57 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

derricktheone wrote:
Me and fatguy settled the dispute in private messages. Your too late. Smile


Yeah, ha ha...
That is why I am not bothering to argue. derricktheone pretty much convinced me. Very Happy
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:38 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

Woodpecker wrote:
Ok, this whole 'giving birth to eggs' thing is really annoying me. Females LAY EGGS and GIVE BIRTH to LIVE YOUNG. Surely the first thing you learnt about a chicken's eggs was that they were laid? Smile


Yes it was, the second thing I learn was that the chicken came first Laughing

Repect
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:07 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

So have we come to a conclusion as to why women live longer, or has my crappy-ass explanation a few pages ago sufficed.
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Posted on Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:05 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

mattz1010 wrote:
So have we come to a conclusion as to why women live longer, or has my crappy-ass explanation a few pages ago sufficed.


.....not sure we sort of got off subject for a little while.
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Posted on Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:35 am

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Tankdown wrote:
mattz1010 wrote:
So have we come to a conclusion as to why women live longer, or has my crappy-ass explanation a few pages ago sufficed.


.....not sure we sort of got off subject for a little while.


Yeah, we did get off topic BIG time.
I don't think we came to a conclusion as to why females live longer. All I know is that there are many theories as to why. And I am open to most.
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Posted on Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:15 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

ah, and in my post of X vs Y, i said that male is XY and female is XX, right?

X is more 'healthy', in as the immune system is stronger.

at least, that's the explanation I got a long time ago.

let's ask wikipedia!

...I have not a CLUE what to search for
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Posted on Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:47 pm

Nightshade

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 421

Look here. The female seahorse injects the eggs into the male, and the male delivers. This is the definition of 'birth,' which as you can see, is the process that the male seahorses take to 'give birth.'

In fact, here is another source that agrees with what I said.

And another

And another

And another

Just because the males don't create the eggs, they only grow/carry (the eggs) and deliver (the eggs/hatched young) doesn't mean that isn't giving birth. In the definition above, you see that giving birth is the act of delivery, not creation of the egg, which is known as gestation. The male seahorses DO get pregnant, and they DO carry the eggs, and they DO deliver the young. I know that this is off-topic, and apparently already "solved," but I had to reply (college is making me busy, so I'm never on the computer). And, I'm sorry for being an asshole, but it is annoying to be told I'm wrong when I knew I was right, especially since I was going to be a biology major, and potentially a marine biologist (now I'm a nurse anesthesiast major).
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Posted on Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:21 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

Nightshade wrote:
but it is annoying to be told I'm wrong when I knew I was right, especially since I was going to be a biology major, and potentially a marine biologist (now I'm a nurse anesthesiast major).


I wish you don't use that form of logic all the time. But seeing the experience you have right now and that your already going up the ladder makes me want to trust you on this. Just always hold on to your limits, your never know when your wrong, untill you see your wrong. Smile

Also nice to know your off subject, then again so was my reply Laughing
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Posted on Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:54 pm

derricktheone

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 356

Nightshade wrote:
Look here. The female seahorse injects the eggs into the male, and the male delivers. This is the definition of 'birth,' which as you can see, is the process that the male seahorses take to 'give birth.'

In fact, here is another source that agrees with what I said.

And another

And another

And another

Just because the males don't create the eggs, they only grow/carry (the eggs) and deliver (the eggs/hatched young) doesn't mean that isn't giving birth. In the definition above, you see that giving birth is the act of delivery, not creation of the egg, which is known as gestation. The male seahorses DO get pregnant, and they DO carry the eggs, and they DO deliver the young. I know that this is off-topic, and apparently already "solved," but I had to reply (college is making me busy, so I'm never on the computer). And, I'm sorry for being an asshole, but it is annoying to be told I'm wrong when I knew I was right, especially since I was going to be a biology major, and potentially a marine biologist (now I'm a nurse anesthesiast major).


I understand your point and all of your links and I too always believed this (I am also educated about many animal species), but I know what I saw. The program described it the same way, but explained how it is a myth. This program was aired no longer than 8 months ago, and it was many educated people talking about it. (Many marine biologists themselves). All of the links you gave me were from 2002, 2000 or before. I couldn't find a couple of the years. I'm thinking mabye it was new info discovered, but I know what I watched. (Sadly, I searched for the TV program but could not find it) You have your beliefs and I have mine. Smile
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Posted on Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:11 pm

Nightshade

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 421

The last link is from March 2006. But yeah....I just had a terrible day, and when I came on this site, I saw that someone told me I was wrong (although not as hostile as I percieved), so I got pissed. Sorry for that blatant display of anger, I'll continue in a more civilized manner Smile

Ok. Like I said, the last link is from March 2006. Which is pretty recent(7 months ago). And tankdown, thank you for your reply. I don't like using that logic, but I was pissed. All the TV programs (all 2 of them lol) agreed with me, and all the articles I search on the internet agree as well. I dunno, I guess I'm just stubborn.

derrick, I think we just have different definitions of birth. My definition (and the dictionary's) is the "deliverance of eggs or hatched young," which is what the male seahorses do. They get pregnant, carry the eggs, then deliver the hatched young. I think your definition is closer to gestation, (or something similar) where it is "the creation of the eggs or fetus." Technically, we are both right since we hold different definitions. I'll let this off-topic topic drop. I thank you for replying in a nice manner, even though mine was pretty hostile.
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