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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:58 am

amyrinth

Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 16

Thank you, Apollo.

I think this community needs to see that said.

Heck, the entire OEC needs to see this.

Just … thank you. We need to learn how to love our fellow psions, our fellow human beings.

It all comes down to that in the end. We're all human. We're all born. Eventually, we'll all die. And during our time on this earth, we need to treat everyone with compassion and understanding, not with ridicule and disdain. All too often the latter is the case and not the former.

This entails watching our speech, being consciously aware of what we say until the time comes that we can be compassionate and kind and loving without having to think about it.

Apollo, again, thank you for making this thread. It shows a lot.

- Ayule
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:28 am

psi001

Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 41

Apollo, you are right.
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:45 pm

JOHNNYBEGOOD

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 354

But if I love everyone, how am I going to get to kill things?
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:21 pm

paraplayer

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 147

There's always animals.
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:32 pm

sparkz

Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 664

JOHNNYBEGOOD wrote:
But if I love everyone, how am I going to get to kill things?


You'll love their corpses?
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Posted on Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:57 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

JOHNNYBEGOOD wrote:
But if I love everyone, how am I going to get to kill things?


love them to......death? Smile
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Posted on Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:38 am

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Tankdown wrote:
DemonHunter wrote:
I agree with you Apollo. Self-discipline lets you learn from yourself and other people causing you to make less mistakes and understand things better. For me it's like the training of intuitive skills and the ability to master difficult or complicated situations without feeling fear and being able to act with a more focussed mind and greater perfection.


I agree with Apollo also but I'm interested what you think of fear? I think fear is nesscery. Confused

DemonHunter wrote:
It sounds so amazing and freaky but if you consider just for one moment yourself being a "god" or at least a "godly" being, that forgot his own powers deluded by stupid unimportant issues you may feel way more confident.


Demonhunter could you tell me a little more of what you think of this? Confused


Well, Demonhunter hasn't responded but I think I may be able to respond for him because I think the same way. (I think Smile)
Well, with the first question about fear. Like Demonhunter said, if you let go of fear, you are able to concentrate on reality and what really is. Fear is only a distraction. Do you understand now?
EDIT: Okay, here is something to explain it even better, pay attention to MartialArtist's Posts.
http://www.psipog.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5885

As for the second question to Demonhunter about thinking yourself as a "god" is very easy for me explain, because I do it. Okay, if you think of yourself as a "god" or something very powerful, your mind may start to think of you as that way. But you must have no doubt whatsoever. (That's how I do it) I have been thinking of myself as very powerful for many years, and it works. I am stronger than most kids at my school, except the football players that are way bigger than me and take steroids. But that is because I doubt myself about the football players. But not about anyone else. You know how some say to think positive, it is like that except being very positive Wink
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Posted on Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:54 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

I sorted wantd him to answer for many reasons but I admire your effort. I think fear should be paid attendsion to simply because it exist. Also I think it difficult to think yourself as a "god" like fingure simply to get yourself to higher grounds. To me it sounds your living a lie...look you use a lie to get yourself stronger...I simply don't like the feel of pretending to be powerful to get there. Simply because other people cross my mind.
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Posted on Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:01 am

DemonHunter

Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 100

"I agree with Apollo also but I'm interested what you think of fear? I think fear is nesscery."

You're right i think. What i experienced concerning fear is that i felt fear in specific situations and after having made up my mind i wouldn't feel fear any more. Fear seems to be for me like a limitation of your own possibilities. But fear seems to to be for me also kind of necessary.
Without the fear i wouldn't know that in specific situations i COULD do many different things to the things that i used to do, but it is also important that i could do these things only if i WANTED to to them.

Another thing is that these are just thoughts. But they let me do more stuff that i really like to do or let me do it easier. So thoughts seem to me very powerful. The thought of myself and everyone being a "god" or "godly being" came to me as i thought of evolution. The Evolution idea, at least how i understood it, speaks of life getting more diversity and complexity during generations and ages.
Now, if you get back in time to moments when life didn't exist and there were just planets and stars and whatever...and get even before that to the point when there is something like a beginning of everything (IF there can be a beginning at all)...
IF you think about that and then think about what you are, then you MUST be a part of the something from the beginning of everything. This is definately very weird and made me think about "god" or "gods creation" differently. It may be interesting that i thought of religious doctrines as bullshit before. I don't think that way anymore, though i think of religions as bullshit, but for different reasons.

"But if I love everyone, how am I going to get to kill things?"

In my opinion loving everyone is a way of recognizing that everyone is the same like you and at the same way totally different. What i mean by that is that you accept and respect other people's way of living and treat them like you wanted to be treated by them. That leads to mutual understanding which is the basic for human communication and living together. Pointing that out doesn't make it easy though. Take a look at human history or at the politics nowadays and see why wars happen.

If you are now at the point of loving everyone, you won't want to get to kill things. There have to be significant reasons for letting you think that you have to kill things.
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Posted on Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:31 am

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Tankdown wrote:
I sorted wantd him to answer for many reasons but I admire your effort. I think fear should be paid attendsion to simply because it exist. Also I think it difficult to think yourself as a "god" like fingure simply to get yourself to higher grounds. To me it sounds your living a lie...look you use a lie to get yourself stronger...I simply don't like the feel of pretending to be powerful to get there. Simply because other people cross my mind.


A lie is something that isn't true...am I stronger than most, yes. Then, am I lieing? I don't think you fully understand me. You must know of the powers of the mind. Mind over matter and etc. This technique is mearly just that, tricking your mind to make it so. I by no means think of myself actually as a god that can shoot lightning out of my fingers and shoot laser beams. I just make my mind make me stronger. It's just positive thinking really. Do you not believe in positive thinking?
Did you go to my link about fear?
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Posted on Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:59 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

"Leadership is based on inspiration, not domination; on cooperation, not intimidation."
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Posted on Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:22 pm

Tankdown

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 688

I feel tired today and I havent really been able to get myself to think correctly (on my level anyway). I scan through the fear thing and found it slihglty interesting. Misunderstanding you was my own fault and I sorry about that. Of cource most people think there better then most, does it make it ture? Perhaps, or Perhaps not.

Truthly I don't think there is people who are "better" or "wrost" then me. I don't want to catology people like that is sounds totaly wrong to me. I tend to think people just are better then in other things while others are better then me in other things.

As for the evolution thing DemonHunter said eariler. I simply like to put this down.

[quote="Dawin" Its not the strongest spieces that survives, but the one most abundant to change.]

I don't feel like myself today Sad
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Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:45 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

The point of life is not to put others down; but to let yourself, and everyone else around you, enjoy it
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Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:29 pm

somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

Apollo wrote:
The point of life is not to put others down; but to let yourself, and everyone else around you, enjoy it


Sure, I agree with that. But some people are stubborn and don't appreciate my enjoyment I try to give to them.
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Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:36 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

that is their own loss. You can only do a certain amount. There is a point in which they must choose to accept it or deny it.
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