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OBE into a Black Hole and Higher Dimensions
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Posted on Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:27 am
mattz1010 Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 885	Then where else would he want to go? You obviously can't go THROUGH a black hole.
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Posted on Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:38 am
Thanatos Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 249	He has obviously misunderstood the term black hole and thats why he posted this thread.
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Re: OBE into a Black Hole and Higher Dimensions on Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:23 am
Zeta Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 7	TheZell wrote: Zeta wrote: (if gravity even exists at all)... Uh, I would assume gravity exists. I would think so to, but then why can people defy it so easily in an OBE? Now onto the science lesson: I read 'A Brief History of Time' by Stephen Hawking twice, and he says that a black hole is what happens when a large star burns up it's hydrogen fuel and then collapses under it's own gravitational pull. Because of this it becomes so dense (kind of like those sphere toys that expand to giant sizes and can also contract to very small sizes) that it's gravitational pull, which is determined by it's mass, is so strong that it attracts everything into it (including the own light that it emits - yes black holes are not actually black, they do glow but you can't see the glow because the star's light can't escape the event horizon). Now, as stated the event horizon is the point of no return surrounding the black hole, once something has entered the EH it can never exit and therefore is pulled toward the black hole. So, yes you can orbit a black hole - just as our own galaxy is orbitting a massive black hole coined 'The Great Attractor'. No, you can not see a black hole - but scientists can see the gravitational pull a black hole has on surrounding matter/objects. Also, particles stream out from just outside the event horizon - which can be measured. Now, this to me would be proof they exist. Also, they are not actually hole's they are spherical - remember they are collapsed stars. Wormholes are inside a black hole (according to Einstein). So going into a black hole would mean going through a wormhole. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia: Wormholes known as Schwarzschild wormholes or Einstein-Rosen bridges are theoretical bridges between areas of space that are thought to be found in the center of a black hole and white hole, joining two universes. They exist in solutions to Einstein's equations, and are thought to be extremely unstable, and would instantly fall apart once created. Some speculation exists that quasars are actually white holes instead of supermassive black holes. Here's what Wiki says about additional dimensions: Additional dimensions Theories such as string theory predict that the space we live in has in fact many more dimensions (frequently 10, 11 or 26), but that the universe measured along these additional dimensions is subatomic in size. As a result, we perceive only the three spatial dimensions that have macroscopic size. But yes, wormholes and other dimensions are theoretical. Time being the 4th dimension also is only theory. But Einstein percieved space and time as a 4th dimensional manifold. Wow, that was alot - there's the one thing you learned today. Now that everyone is on the right page, can we get back to the matter at hand? LOL
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Posted on Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:23 pm
Thanatos Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 249	Zeta: You are correct. The dimension and wormhole theories are just speculations.
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Posted on Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:40 pm
shadow36128 Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 41	I've heard 2 types of wormhole theories. 1. The first one I've heard of is the more common one, that they are completely separate from black holes. 2. The second one I've heard says that wormholes are attached to black holes. If an object of low enough mass entered a big enough black hole, the object would pass through the black hole, travel though the connected wormhole, and then exit through a white hole. For the record: For a black hole to form, it must be at least 10 times more massive then our sun, and then go supernova. I skimmed over some posts and fully expect some of this to be repeat information.
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Posted on Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:23 am
batworz Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 128	Quote: Now coming back to physics, no 5th Dimension? You might want to take a look at Super String theory or "M-Theory," currently they are up to theorizing the existence of 11 spatial dimensions. Damn you beat me to that explanation! anyway your right, how? my dad is a pyhisict (wrong spelling I know).
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Posted on Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:05 am
Thanatos Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 249	batworz wrote: Quote: Now coming back to physics, no 5th Dimension? You might want to take a look at Super String theory or "M-Theory," currently they are up to theorizing the existence of 11 spatial dimensions. Damn you beat me to that explanation! anyway your right, how? my dad is a pyhisict (wrong spelling I know). They are theorizing allot of stuff, the 5th Dimension though has nothing to do with "Alternate Realities". I think that was his assumption.
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Posted on Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:38 pm
batworz Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 128	Quote: "Alternate Realities". I think that was his assumption. Not too sure about this black hole dimension nonsense, but my dad says that there is a 5th dimension and many more dimensions past the 5th one- he says this comes into quantum mechanics/string theory. anyway that stuff is too 'out of this world' for me.
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Posted on Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:32 am
Thanatos Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 249	Batworz, yes the quantum theory and the string theory fall into the category of theoretical physics, the kind of physics that are still under research. They are merely asumptions.
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Posted on Wed May 03, 2006 5:17 pm
PYROmatt Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 67	would someone just go to a black hole/wormhole already! I would but i still can't obe.
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Posted on Thu May 04, 2006 2:06 pm
Xiouslaidyn Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 194	Lock this thread someone, please. This whole thread is a stupid argument that NONE of you will ever win.
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Posted on Mon May 08, 2006 5:00 pm
WhiteRaven Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 343	[quote=Zeta]I would think so to, but then why can people defy it so easily in an OBE? [/quote] you're not defying gravity at all, you're in an energy body.Energy, aside from matter, has EXTREMELY little mass, so you could easily escape gravity because it would no longer be strong enough to pull you.
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Posted on Sat May 13, 2006 12:14 am
azsxdc Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 90	I've just invented a sweet theory regarding black holes. They say that black holes suck anything that get's close enough in and compresses it so tightly that it becomes nothing. Impossible? Maybe not. Think of the number 0. You can multiply it by ANYTHING and the result will always be 0. Perhaps black holes work in a similar fashion.
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Posted on Sun May 14, 2006 3:39 am
Lucidess Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 837	Or maybe it's when you try to divide by zero, no one will know
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Posted on Sun May 14, 2006 11:33 pm
Felix_the_Cat Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 177	azsxdc wrote: I've just invented a sweet theory regarding black holes. They say that black holes suck anything that get's close enough in and compresses it so tightly that it becomes nothing. Impossible? Maybe not. Think of the number 0. You can multiply it by ANYTHING and the result will always be 0. Perhaps black holes work in a similar fashion. The first law of thermodynamics begs to differ.
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