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What is the difference between lucid dreams and OBEs
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What is the difference between lucid dreams and OBEs on Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:08 am

dondu

Joined: 09 Jul 2006
Posts: 6

I am kind of confused about why you'd want to obe instead because lucid dreams allow you to hear things and also I've heard about people seeing things in the phisical world. so if someone could clear things up for me Cool that would be great.
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Posted on Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:13 am

Mad_Hatter

Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 393

OOBE's are generally described as more "real" then lucid dreams. Some people think that lucid dreams are another version of the OOBE, and some people discount OOBE's as lucid dreams. The line between them is very blurry. OOBE's tend to be a more powerful experience though, because the feeling of leaving your body is rather powerful.

Also, many people would dispute that you actually see the real world with OOBE's. Experimenters with OOBEs claim to be able to do it, but even then it is very unreliable and subjective. For example, Monroe describes going out of body and visiting a friend’s house, where he said he witnessed his friend’s wife "dealing oversized playing cards onto the table." Naturally that seems odd. He asked them what they were doing at that time, and it turned out she was sorting the mail.

In lucid dreams, you can control the environment, even though it is usually not very concrete and changes whenever you look away. Dreams are very likely to change without warning or reason. OOBEs are not.
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Posted on Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:44 pm

WindShifter

Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 16

well as my noobish post I made states I have had one OBE. and as I noted it was much different then any lucid dream I've had. you can see the post for more info.

p.s.: ohh MH, you're in oregon too, what city?
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Posted on Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:25 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

Lucid dreams are (to the best of my knowledge) accepted to be real by science. OBEs aren't. OBEs might not be real (which is what I believe).
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Posted on Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:33 pm

Mad_Hatter

Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 393

Windshifter: Newport, a small coastal town in the middle of the state. Central Oregon coast. Nice spot.

As to DanialH's post. I will personally gut anybody who argues with him--in this thread. There is already a thread for arguing about that. It is here:

http://www.psipog.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2443&highlight=
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Posted on Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:48 pm

WindShifter

Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 16

madhatter: I'm in salem Smile, i've been to newport before, but I can't really imagine being so close to the cost year round. Razz

anyway, I won't argue with danielH, but I will note that it is very differnt experiencing an OBE and experiencing a lucid dream. wether the obe is real or not it is pretty awsome when it happens.
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