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Seven years of psi article on Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:51 pm

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

If you haven't read the article you need to know what it says before reading this post. http://www.psipog.net/show.php?cmd=wp&id=19

I'm not trying to discredit Peebrain with these criticisms, but this new method he's developed really doesn't seem adequate to me. It just seems like an ineffective way to manipulate psi.

So, it seems inadequate because Peebs is saying telling you to replicate physical contact in your mind so you can feel the psi. It seems to me that the replicated physical contact is being mislabeled. All it is is induced analytical overlay. That doesn't mean you're moving psi. So in the end you are just learning to stimulate physical sensations rather than manipulate energy and this of course doesn't move the practitioner anywhere skill-wise.

I don't know, maybe I came to understand that article differently than what Peebs meant, so correct me if I'm misunderstanding the article, but I feel very strongly with what I said. This method doesn't seem to effectively teach energy manipulation.
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Posted on Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:47 am

PazarX

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 60

Are you from Veritas??? Because they were saying the same thing there.

Anyway, I have been making psiballs for a few years and i still found this article very helpful, especially for helping my friends. The thing about the physical sensation is it gives people who are new at this something to build off of. When your new at this it's easier to know if your using psi or not by relating it to a physical feeling.
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Posted on Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:32 am

SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

The method uses tactile visualization, and it's very effective Smile.

Pure visualization hardly compares to it. I can personally vouche for the method, even though that may not be enough for you... But, when using this method I have more success with other people feeling Psi too.
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Posted on Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:22 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

no not heard of veritas.

well that was only speculation. i havent tried it myself because it just seemed odd to do something like that, but now that you guys are saying this stuff it wouldn't hurt to give it a try.


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The method uses tactile visualization, and it's very effective .


If you are sensing psi properly, wouldn't you experience tactile visualization if you are moving throughout the body?
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Posted on Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:49 am

Mad_Hatter

Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 393

I can vouch for this as well. I think the entire point of visualization is to get to tactile feelings. My best successes with other people feeling my energy has been when I started with visualization/tactile and finished with tactile.
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Posted on Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:56 am

Peebrain

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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
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It's perfectly logical to be skeptical of results. ANY psi ball method has potential to induce false results when you first start. That's why I linked to my article on how to verify your skills at the end.

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~Sean
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Posted on Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:45 pm

SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

What Peebrian says is true.

It IS very possible to create false-sensations with ANY method. That is why you must be VERY careful when you are performing Psi manipulation.

You would feel stimulus from the psi moving through your body. But that stimulus is not the visualization Razz. The visualization is the feeling YOU make. Often times, the feeling you try to make is in conjunction with the feeling of Psi, so it feels slightly "different" than just a random sensation on your body.

REmember my "Beginner's Mistakes #1"? That discussed feeling thing psi, and feeling a false feeling.
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Posted on Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:52 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

well ill try using this method a bit and i guess i'll post to say if ive improved Wink
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Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:30 am

Psi_Fi

Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 28

I think that it is very effective. Frankly, it helped me feel energy again,
like I did when I started out with psi.

Thanks Sean. Very Happy
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Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:17 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Wait......one........moment

I thought i had read all the articles on psipog! It appears I missed one! When did this come out?
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Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:31 pm

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

so I tried a few days ago...and i didn't really feel anything different than what i usually do. if anything, replicating the touch of my fingers was sort of distracting.

i think it this method might have the placebo effect.
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Posted on Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:04 am

SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

Every method can have a placebo effect Razz.
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Posted on Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:42 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

True true. well whatever helps make you get better. Very Happy

ill just continue to do what i've always done w/ psi manipulation. i was hoping the technique would work wonders for me, but it doesnt. i really wish these skills wouldn't take so long to master, but hey, i guess getting there makes it fun.
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Posted on Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:18 am

chaoszero

Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 7

I agree with freakinrican626, this method gave me just the same feeling as when I used the other methods; however I was left feeling rather "detached" from the energy; I felt as if I had far less control over it because I was concentrating on maintaining the sensation rather than on directing the energy.
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Posted on Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:01 am

Lizndax

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 120

Perhaps this method is better used once you've already practiced with another kind and already have a handle on basic psi manipulation.
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