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Posted on Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:47 pm

Bladesman

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 37

One of the basic points of Shotokan karate-do is kimete (focus). The concept is to lock the heel, back leg, hips, arm, fist at the same time as striking (a punch), in order to deliver the maximum power. Instead of just hitting someone with your hand (which is really, rather in-effectual, and I don't care how strong you are), you strike with your whole body.

Layered on top of this is the idea of kimete, focusing your bodies energy to strike through the opponent (performed by an instant tighten-relax of your muscles upon impact). Performed with kiai ('spirit shout'), a proper attack (be it punch or kick) can be incredibly powerful. Considering that it's all energy (psi, ki, chi blah, call it laundry for all I care), there is an element of it in Karate-do.
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Posted on Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:06 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

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It helps because you can use your psi to SEE changes or fluxuations in things like the wind or your opponent's aura in situations where you pull a move that causes you to look upside down.


- ManInTheBox2005

How does psi do that? You're just focusing on more things. You're only going to hurt yourself by trying to do psionics while fighting. Also... there are no moves in Capoeira where you're really supposed to look away from who your wirth for more than an instance. And you only pull those off when you know you have time. The same applies to every martial art as far as I can tell.


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One of the basic points of Shotokan karate-do is kimete (focus). The concept is to lock the heel, back leg, hips, arm, fist at the same time as striking (a punch), in order to deliver the maximum power. Instead of just hitting someone with your hand (which is really, rather in-effectual, and I don't care how strong you are), you strike with your whole body.

Layered on top of this is the idea of kimete, focusing your bodies energy to strike through the opponent (performed by an instant tighten-relax of your muscles upon impact). Performed with kiai ('spirit shout'), a proper attack (be it punch or kick) can be incredibly powerful. Considering that it's all energy (psi, ki, chi blah, call it laundry for all I care), there is an element of it in Karate-do.


- Bladesman

Yeah... putting your body weight into hits is used in... everything.

Hitting through something? Yeah, that's also used in everything... you don't need "psi" or "ki" for that. It's just the proper way to hit. Nothing special about that. No "psi" or "ki" required.

heh, did you know that kiais are used a lot less now because they didn't do as much good as they did bad? Too many broken jaws ans all of that. You have to be wary of doing a kiai if it looks like your jaw is about to get smashed in.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:43 am

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

DanielH wrote:

- neveza

What book was this? I forgot.


Bruce Lee's Fighting Method Basic Training.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:02 pm

JKT

Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 137

TY for the book info. And chuck i am guessing you belive in KI as you probably wouldn't be here otherwise (unless to argue) but if you belive in ki (sorry psi just sounds so rubbish) you have no reason to not belive in aura as it is also more beiliveable and has science behind it. Although i admit there are people who disagree.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:07 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

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TY for the book info. And chuck i am guessing you belive in KI as you probably wouldn't be here otherwise (unless to argue) but if you belive in ki (sorry psi just sounds so rubbish) you have no reason to not belive in aura as it is also more beiliveable and has science behind it. Although i admit there are people who disagree.


- JKT

I don't believe in ki. I don't believe in auras. Psi has a lot of science behind it. My reason for not believing in auras? Never seen one, never felt one, lack of evidence, etc
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:12 pm

JKT

Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 137

Wait i didn't understand you belive in psi? but you don't belive in ki? you don't make sense there the same thing just different word:

KI/PSI/CHI/QI/PRANA/ENERGY/WTF the same lol
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:13 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

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Wait i didn't understand you belive in psi? but you don't belive in ki? you don't make sense there the same thing just different word:

KI/PSI/CHI/QI/PRANA/ENERGY/WTF the same lol


- JKT

Not everyone believes that.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:15 pm

JKT

Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 137

WTF whats the differnece between ki and psi?
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:18 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

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WTF whats the differnece between ki and psi?


- JKT

It depends on who you ask. Some people think ki is just breathe, others think that it is a vital life force, some people believe that it's some healing/destructive force that people can use, etc. The list is huge.
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:33 pm

Ebonknowledge

Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 57

Psi can take many forms psi is also in you blood, breathe and anything that has to do with living, and technically psi is everywhere even matter is made out of energy...
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:37 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

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Psi can take many forms psi is also in you blood, breathe and anything that has to do with living, and technically psi is everywhere even matter is made out of energy...


- Ebonknowledge

Didn't you delete one of your posts after you edited it to say that you were going to respond in a day or two?
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:10 pm

Ebonknowledge

Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 57

I didn't delete anything, I edited that one adding that day or two thing...
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:25 pm

DanielH

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 479

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I didn't delete anything, I edited that one adding that day or two thing...


- Ebonknowledge

Cool, so only one day left?
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Posted on Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:19 pm

ManInTheBox2005

Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 37

dude you give Chuck Norris a bad name

EDIT: No trolling. If you don't have something good to say don't post.
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Posted on Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:57 am

JKT

Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 137

Your the only person so far who has said ki is not psi? so whats the dif with ki balls and psi balls? nothing just the name same whit chi balls.
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