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Posted on Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:51 am

MetaAlchemy

Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 110

AuraTwilight wrote:
Hey Joshy, I think the simplest, safest, and most ethical thing to do is to OBE and go visit her in the afterlife.

As for the subject of bringing back the dead, I'd advise against it. Whether there's a God or not, I think everything happens for a reason. A person dies for a greater good, and if you bring them back, you're taking them away from eternal paradise, or the chance to start over with a clean slate, or whatever you believe.

You're talking about forceful ressurection, I was talking about empowering the "dead", thus giving them more options/abilities.

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And if the being in question was going to Hell or Hades or whatever, then no one probably loved the person/thing enough to ressurect it anyway.

One of the biggest lies ever spoken contained two words:
"Truth" & "Justice". It was often then spoken by religious idealists.
"Hell" makes no sense. How's fire going to hurt a non-physical body?

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In OBE you can visit people that have passed away?!

This depends on how skilled the OBE practicer is, and how accessable the passed-away-person is.

If you are interested in this subject, it may be possible to study a specific esoteric practice of Tibet, having to do with conditioning yourself before sleep -- so that you astrally project and do a certain task as you sleep.
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I've only heard about it, and cannot source the info.
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Posted on Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:33 pm

AuraTwilight

Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 18

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You're talking about forceful ressurection, I was talking about empowering the "dead", thus giving them more options/abilities.


Even still, that's kind've crossing a line that even psionics shouldn't play around by.

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One of the biggest lies ever spoken contained two words:
"Truth" & "Justice". It was often then spoken by religious idealists.
"Hell" makes no sense. How's fire going to hurt a non-physical body?


In cases like these you have to consider every possibility. I don't believe in Hell but when we're referencing the Dead, we have to consider it as an option. As for the fire thing, it could be spiritual fire that tortures the mind or something. Negative energy, basically. But I digress.

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In OBE you can visit people that have passed away?!


Sure you can, if you know what you're doing. The Astral Plane is usually inhabited by the recently dead, and some theorize it's like a middle road between this life and the next. I'm sure you can find a way to visit them.
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Posted on Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:17 pm

Ancheron

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 27

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A person dies for a greater good, and if you bring them back, you're taking them away from eternal paradise, or the chance to start over with a clean slate, or whatever you believe.


Of course, if you are able to do it, and do it, then that is also for the "greater good", the moment you perform such an act, according to your philosophy.

You can heal the body, of course, but then you must realize that it is necessary to return the conciousness back to that body. There have been several hypothesized means of doing this, mostly outside of the context of psionics for most people.
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Posted on Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:06 pm

Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

When you die you go to become part of the collective mental being and the collective physical being. Why would anyone want to come back from that?

Note: I am not a buddhist or hindu. Just most of my ideas match up with them.
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Posted on Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:19 pm

lilhawk2892

Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 150

i dont know maybe to see loved ones
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Posted on Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:13 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

i'm sorry about your loss josh. it was must be very hard to deal with. i wouldnt mourn her death though. like some have implied, she is progressing to a different kind of existence (if it really is existence. i wouldn't know since i have never died before).

yes you cannot see her physically here and now, but i would keep hope since she is still apart of this world. i do not know exactly how i could explain this, but her 'spirit' (i use this term loosely) has become apart of the 'universe'. <--(i was this term cause lack of a better one; realm, existence, that kind of idea.)

josh, just breathe in. relax. concentrate but empty your mind. feel the world around you. it's not over yet.
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Posted on Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:39 am

Joshy

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 544

freakinrican626 wrote:
i'm sorry about your loss josh. it was must be very hard to deal with. i wouldnt mourn her death though. like some have implied, she is progressing to a different kind of existence (if it really is existence. i wouldn't know since i have never died before).

yes you cannot see her physically here and now, but i would keep hope since she is still apart of this world. i do not know exactly how i could explain this, but her 'spirit' (i use this term loosely) has become apart of the 'universe'. <--(i was this term cause lack of a better one; realm, existence, that kind of idea.)

josh, just breathe in. relax. concentrate but empty your mind. feel the world around you. it's not over yet.


Thanks. =/
I went to see her at her house last night, Not the easiest thing in the world :[
Funeral on friday..
Wish me luck?
And thanks people :]
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Re: giving life on Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:19 am

maxus

Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 851

lilhawk2892 wrote:
is it possible to make a construct that can give a small thing like an ant or something life if its not that far gone?


does sound a little fluffy, bringing back the dead, i can see the movie now, DAWN OF THE ANTS........but on a serious note, you would have to be quite advanced i should think, ive never heard of a construct that could bring things back to life.
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Posted on Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:11 am

Chiro

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 191

Well with Psi isnt anything possible when programmed right? We ourselves only limit its potential, I wont go screwin' with it but I believe it is possible to resurect someone/thing by reempowering their Aura and Psi production locations, like a zoll defribualtor (spelling) to your heart, but thatd have to be a very immeadate thing. Or perhaps before they entireley leave, is there a way to induce Astral Projection in them, then you could power them with your own Chakras i guess, but thatd weaken you to almost nothing. Wow an effective way to be the grim reaper.. XD
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Posted on Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:54 am

maxus

Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 851

people die and things die because theres something wrong with them, could be cancer, they could have gotten shot. But if you were to somehow make a psi ball to resurrect them, the psi ball would have to be programmed to fix the problem, i.e, kill the cancer, or heal the bullet wound. You would have to program a psi ball to do so many things it would be almost impossible, let alone, you would have to summon enough energy to make such a psi ball, but sure, go ahead and let us know of the outcome....
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Posted on Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:34 pm

AuraTwilight

Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 18

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Of course, if you are able to do it, and do it, then that is also for the "greater good", the moment you perform such an act, according to your philosophy.


MY philosophy? What, are you reading my mind? Because no. If a person dies, it's probably their turn to go. Bringing back a person is playing God, and things always go wrong when you do that, regardless of what you believe.
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Posted on Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:58 pm

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

ya good luck josh!!!


on a side note. i think you cannot truly experience life without experiencing death. we live to die (eventually). it's apart of life. it's nature. a dual nature at that. i think that by the time we have died, most might not want to go back to the physical world. but i wouldnt worry about death or bringing people back from the dead. it seems to me as a sort of injustice to them just so you can feel satisfied with the return of their presence. that to me seems a bit selfish in some aspects.
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Posted on Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:46 pm

Lightbringer

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 293

I think the whole idea of "giving life" is based off of a misunderstanding of what life is. It's not something that's ever lost, just changed. Everything's alive. And no, this isn't some new-agey BS I decided to spew, it's true enough that I was able to easily deal with the loss of 2 brothers. Too bad people are so trapped by this illusion and fear of death...
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Posted on Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:18 pm

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

that sounds a bit buddhist. lol. well i like the thought. it makes death an easier subject to deal with and a very plausable reality.
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Posted on Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:02 am

pepsiboy

Joined: 25 Jun 2006
Posts: 562

has anyone ever tried to give a year of their life to a cause? if at all possible?
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