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Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:57 pm

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

neveza wrote:
pyroman098 wrote:
i dont understand that though....why can you slide things but not even spin the psiwheel?


I don't either, then agian, What says that spinning Pin-Wheels are easier then sliding a object? there isn't any proof up to my knowledge.


Sliding takes much more force.
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Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:54 pm

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

Aurafire wrote:
neveza wrote:
pyroman098 wrote:
i dont understand that though....why can you slide things but not even spin the psiwheel?


I don't either, then agian, What says that spinning Pin-Wheels are easier then sliding a object? there isn't any proof up to my knowledge.


Sliding takes much more force.


Does it? Agian, there isn't any proof to back that up.(up to my knowledge)

There for, what you said, doesn't imply to me or any one else, it's just something people think is true, although it could possibly false.

Not saying it is or not.
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Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:35 pm

bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

Yea, I've bent the pin for my wheel but I can't spin the wheel, I can also almost roll pencils...
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Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:12 pm

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

neveza wrote:
Aurafire wrote:
neveza wrote:
pyroman098 wrote:
i dont understand that though....why can you slide things but not even spin the psiwheel?


I don't either, then agian, What says that spinning Pin-Wheels are easier then sliding a object? there isn't any proof up to my knowledge.


Sliding takes much more force.


Does it? Agian, there isn't any proof to back that up.(up to my knowledge)

There for, what you said, doesn't imply to me or any one else, it's just something people think is true, although it could possibly false.

Not saying it is or not.


Sure there is proof. Obviously levitating a pencil would be harder than rolling it. If there was a way to weigh out how much force it would take, it would be much less then it would take to levitate. The proof is in force and weight. Moving a house would be much more difficult than spinning a psiwheel for the same reason.
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Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:19 pm

Kaiandy

Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 109

Ummm...basically, there is no rulebook saying you have to start on the psiwheel, NOR is there a rule stating that you "may not slide an object before spinning psiwheel". You never had to start on the psiwheel, it is just a very easy spot to begin because, for most, it spins within at least a month, compared to what might happen if you tried to roll a pencil (or slide it). But who knows? Maybe, just maybe, it would take the same amount of time because all you are doing is getting your mind used to moving things? Idk.
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Posted on Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:00 pm

ENtoMT

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 229

For me? It took about 2 months before i got any real results.
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Posted on Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:12 am

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

Kaiandy wrote:
Ummm...basically, there is no rulebook saying you have to start on the psiwheel, NOR is there a rule stating that you "may not slide an object before spinning psiwheel". You never had to start on the psiwheel, it is just a very easy spot to begin because, for most, it spins within at least a month, compared to what might happen if you tried to roll a pencil (or slide it). But who knows? Maybe, just maybe, it would take the same amount of time because all you are doing is getting your mind used to moving things? Idk.


I never recall saying there was a rulebook anywhere. Nor did I say such a rule ought to exist. The bigger possibility is the nerveza is kind of a natural but the MOTION for sliding is much more natural than spinning for him. It takes much less force to cause a psiwheel to spin than just about any object to slide. A light breath from your nose will cause a psiwheel to move but wouldn't budge a pencil. I don't think the mind getting used to moving things has much to do with this unless it's on your first object that you begin with. I'm used to moving psiwheels but I can't move cars.
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Posted on Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:13 am

neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

Aurafire wrote:
neveza wrote:
Aurafire wrote:
neveza wrote:
pyroman098 wrote:
i dont understand that though....why can you slide things but not even spin the psiwheel?


I don't either, then agian, What says that spinning Pin-Wheels are easier then sliding a object? there isn't any proof up to my knowledge.


Sliding takes much more force.


Does it? Agian, there isn't any proof to back that up.(up to my knowledge)

There for, what you said, doesn't imply to me or any one else, it's just something people think is true, although it could possibly false.

Not saying it is or not.


Sure there is proof. Obviously levitating a pencil would be harder than rolling it. If there was a way to weigh out how much force it would take, it would be much less then it would take to levitate. The proof is in force and weight. Moving a house would be much more difficult than spinning a psiwheel for the same reason.


That's not proof...When I mean proof, I mean Math and a scientific explaination, something that doesn't seem to be possible with psi at the moment.

Force and weight. I find heavier objects easier then tiny, lighter objects.
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Posted on Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:32 pm

Aurafire

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 41

neveza wrote:
Aurafire wrote:
neveza wrote:
Aurafire wrote:
neveza wrote:
pyroman098 wrote:
i dont understand that though....why can you slide things but not even spin the psiwheel?


I don't either, then agian, What says that spinning Pin-Wheels are easier then sliding a object? there isn't any proof up to my knowledge.


Sliding takes much more force.


Does it? Agian, there isn't any proof to back that up.(up to my knowledge)

There for, what you said, doesn't imply to me or any one else, it's just something people think is true, although it could possibly false.

Not saying it is or not.


Sure there is proof. Obviously levitating a pencil would be harder than rolling it. If there was a way to weigh out how much force it would take, it would be much less then it would take to levitate. The proof is in force and weight. Moving a house would be much more difficult than spinning a psiwheel for the same reason.


That's not proof...When I mean proof, I mean Math and a scientific explaination, something that doesn't seem to be possible with psi at the moment.

Force and weight. I find heavier objects easier then tiny, lighter objects.


That definitely doesn't make since. Moving a 2 ton car is much easier than moving a psiwheel that is fractions of an ounce for you? Now the motion might be more comfortable to you, but as for the amount of force, that doesn't make since. You have to come up with enought force pushing against the object. If you want me to I can make this into a physics equation, because the laws of physics still apply but the force is coming from a force that most people can't see. Heavier objects might be easier for you, but not for everyone else that I've talked to.
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