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Oxegen shield on Tue May 23, 2006 8:23 pm

twilightshadow

Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 42

Technically,could you not create a shield over your head that would filter the h20 into oxogen when it reached your head,thus allowing you to breath under water?In theory of course
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Posted on Tue May 23, 2006 8:37 pm

MarcusT

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 227

It is concievable, however, it is far beyond any psion that there are today. For one, would have to literally be a master on constructing multiple types of shields and another, would have to be a master micro pk'er on a huge scale since in 1 gram of water there are millions of molecules that you'd have to break down. Humans on the average of each breath, take in somewhere in between 25-50 grams of air per breath which equates to roughly 5-20 grams of oxygen alone and you multiply that out on the number of breaths per min as well as trying to break the water down for oxygen, the energy output would be far greater then worth attempting.
Be better off learning complete body control and storing amounts of oxygen within the body and train yourself to minimilze the use of it to work underwater.
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Posted on Tue May 23, 2006 8:37 pm

Klarh

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 4

How many molecules have you split in your lifetime? We're talking about nuclear fission here(think atomic bombs).
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Posted on Wed May 24, 2006 10:08 am

Aero_Maniac

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 26

Nope, splitting water isn't nuclear fission. Fission is when you split an atom, a molecule is a collection of atoms. To split water all you have to do is to run a sufficient amount of current through it. But going back to the shield: You'd need more than just oxygen. Normal air is only about 21% oxygen (correct me if I'm wrong) and the majority of the rest is Nitrogen. Just from splitting water, the 'air' you'd get would be about 66.6% Hydrogen and 33.3% Oxygen (if it was nothing but water and there was no other gases dissolved in it). This wouldn't exactly be good for you. The shield itself would need to be double layered, one would be an incredibly strong force shield to keep the water out. The other would need to be able to run average amounts of electricity through it. There's no need to mention that it'd be hard. At this kind of level, you'd be using close to the amount of energy required to make an atom from psi. That's a hell of a lot of energy. Plus you'd need to be a grand master at PK. Good luck though Very Happy
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Posted on Wed May 24, 2006 2:44 pm

wakopanda

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 11

not to mention just bear in mind what happens shortly after spliting water into water into hydrogen and oxygen. if you dont seperate them soon they react again. explosively. not a process you want going on near your head.
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Posted on Wed May 24, 2006 10:43 pm

shadow36128

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 41

In theory, if you created a shield that could both send a mild electric charge (Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't done much with electrolysis) through the water while simoultaneously pulling only the oxygen through the shield you might be able to. However, I doubt very much that anyone will ever get good enough to do this.
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Posted on Thu May 25, 2006 8:25 am

robhol

Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 36

Required abilities for the electrolysis:
1) GOOOOOOD PK at will
2) Pretty good Electrokinesis at will
3) ENORMOUS concentration all the time (else the whole thing just dissolves.

Therefore you'd have so much to concentrate on, to keep the whole thing from flying apart that you couldn't use it for somethin useful.

Cool if it worked though.
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Posted on Thu May 25, 2006 3:44 pm

Klarh

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 4

Ack, my bad, I wasn't thinking straight. Aero_Maniac and the others are right, sorry again Very Happy
(I'm blushing all over now, that was a total brain failure!)

So I don't make a totally useless post, a quick wikipedia search reveals that the air we breathe is about 21% oxygen, with the majority of it being nitrogen(78%). Of course, this isn't necessarily the required percentage for each element, but my guess would be that straying too far from it would leave you rather...uncomfortable...

Earth's Atmosphere - Wikipedia
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Posted on Fri May 26, 2006 10:12 am

robhol

Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 36

Also, remember, that to do something with a psiball \-shield \-construct you need to be able to do it on your own. Unless you can turn carbondioxide into oxygen on you own, you can't do it with your shield
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Posted on Fri May 26, 2006 8:42 pm

MagicalTrevor

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 154

With that shield, program another construct to gather energy and program the shield to draw energy from that construct when it needs it.
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Posted on Mon May 29, 2006 3:34 am

Amaroq

Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 24

This type of thing, although an interesting idea, is most likely impossible. Or it's so close to impossibility that it will never be achieved by anyone.

Not to mention that having too high a percentage of oxygen in the air you breathe is poisonous, if I'm not mistaken. Razz
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Posted on Mon May 29, 2006 6:20 pm

shadow36128

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 41

Amaroq wrote:
This type of thing, although an interesting idea, is most likely impossible. Or it's so close to impossibility that it will never be achieved by anyone.

Not to mention that having too high a percentage of oxygen in the air you breathe is poisonous, if I'm not mistaken. Razz

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It might work for a short while (like a half a minute), but after that you'd start to get sick.
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Posted on Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:38 pm

Mavos

Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 7

You could, however, trap air into a shield around your head, though you wouldn't be under forever and you would probably float. But this approach may be easier. ( Don't rely on me though)
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Posted on Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:41 pm

stony1205

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 170

This thread reminds me of the "air shield" in Spaceballs.

"The combination to the air shield is... 1,2,3,4,...5"
"12345? I use that same combination on my luggage!"

~ Stony
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Posted on Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:34 am

freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

lol spaceballs is a very good movie.

crack up everytime Laughing
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