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Posted on Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:31 pm

Scorch

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 94

woah peebs, from what I read of the emails they posted on their own sites, they made themselves look like idiots... honestly, these are the kind of people that bring humanity as a whole down... And since they avoided telling you anything really, I'd say it's a big fraud too, a clever one at that, because you can never prove them wrong, because they can just lie through their teeth about everything... Bah, blatent ignorence should be a capital punishment.
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Posted on Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:47 pm

monk

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 31

I say fight fire with fire. Twisted Evil

He wants to show up fakes right? Well just do magic tricks until you get in to the actual experiment (making sure you have an independent observer of course) then go wild Razz, he would'nt know what hit him and it would serve him right Twisted Evil

He would have a tough time weaselling out of it
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Posted on Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:23 pm

Etree8

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 340

"When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty, but the pig loves it." -Some movie I can't remember.
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Posted on Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:34 am

Red_Devil

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 136

Etree8 wrote:
"When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty, but the pig loves it." -Some movie I can't remember.


Lol, that one's nice. Laughing
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Posted on Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:34 pm

Pricemac

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 90

Man, Sean, atta way to sock it to em, freaking morons... lol, half the community agrees with you, and the other half is chock full of idiots. Good job holding out!
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Posted on Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:34 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

What you do?

Get 2 videocams, from 2 different angles.

Then, perform 10 minutes of 'tricks'.

The second camera's there to prove he's a fucking dumbass and that all his claims about people not being able to perfom psi is because of 'blar balr blar'. Except, when you show the second camera with a timestamp, he'll be proven wrong.

Aaand...then everybody hates him.

Everybody wins ^_^
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Posted on Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:36 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

what do you mean about the second camera? can you rephrase that?
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Posted on Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:38 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

You show the first videocam so he can bullshit his way through it, then show the second camera. And provide evidence that it was taken at the same time as the first camera, thus disproving him of his previous claims - and making him look like an idiot.

p.s. randi doesn't count as 'everyone'. he's not human
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Posted on Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:59 pm

Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

how would that change anything though? it would just be a different perspective. He could still call it a trick.

I dont think you people understand. Randi pretty much MAKES people fail his tests. That is why he probably does not have the money hence the incident with peebs.
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Posted on Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:40 pm

mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

you could have multiple cameras, being filmed in the CIA, for fuck's sake - anything to make that dipshit cower into a ball in the corner and admit that he doesn't have the money, and he's a fucking liar.

Just post one videocamera at a time....hahahahaha... When we get to 5 cameras, it's hard to still hold onto it. Because, the most perspectives you have, the more chance there is of seeing somebody didn't hit somebody else.

Try the alt-cameras in most action movies...they don't REALLY hit each other.
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Posted on Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:20 pm

Chimeric

Joined: 20 Feb 2006
Posts: 15

I think the conclusion of that very long arguent on Randi's forum was that he does actually have the money, althought it constitutes more than half of his assets.

For the record, although Kramer is a jackass and Randi seems to be too (although he's allowed... what, he's old! Wink ) I somewhat understand why they would be hostile that way. Peebs, you have my respect for not insulting them or turning them into vegetables (I don't know... can you do that? don't answer that)
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Posted on Sun May 21, 2006 11:54 pm

WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

omfg


Kramer wrote:
Originally posted by Beleth
Which is Sean? Do you consider him a sincere applicant, or do you consider him a fraud? You are certainly treating him like you consider him a fraud. For the life of me, I don't know why.



Form your own opinion from Sean's latest email:

Dear Kramer,

I was unaware that you were posting messages. I do not wish to pursue this matter further.

Incidentally,after looking around your site, I find your work very interesting, and I wish you luck with refuting claims that are not valid. A great deal of progress that has been made in our world has been made from people such as yourself who have said "No. That is not true. That is absurd." There are certainly a lot of off the wall things being said on your website.

Would you kindly take my messages off of the internet? I thought that the messages were going to be kept private. I see that you are very tough with people who cannot back up their claims, and I respect you for it. The world needs someone like you bury kooky ideas and claims.

Please e-mail me to confirm that you have taken the messages off.

Good luck in your endeavors to refute the absurd!

-Sean


unless I'm very much mistaken, that looks like a phantom e-mail, this phenomenon occurs when idiots make up e-mails from other people.Parts may be real, but at least part of it is made up, because Sean knew Kramer was posting his e-mails. It doesn't surprise me one bit that that moron Kramer would say that, though. You could get him arrested for that, Sean, I think it's considered a 1st amendment violation, but I'm almost positive it's a felony.
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