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Pikapoo asks on March 29, 2004, 7:45pm:

i got a few questions:
1. what do you mean by "leaving your body" when your talking about obes.
2. i think i have had 2 obe's, but im not sure if it was one. they felt real, and before i wake up, my eyesight is pitch black, like im blind! how can i tell if its real or not?
3. does it really take 6 monthes(atleast for peebrain) to actualy have a obe? i dident think it would take that long of practice...

Peebrain replies on April 28, 2004, 1:02pm:

1. Think of moving your consciousness outside of your body. Kind of like a video game, where the camera is floating around, but the body is somewhere else. Your "camera" doesn't have to stay in your body all the time in real life either! (it seems )

2. Well, if you wake up at night, chances are it's going to be black. Night is dark, you know? But other than that, a lot of times you can't tell if ONE weird experience is something or not. You have to try to recreate the weird experience, so you have a LOT of weird experiences, then you can try to draw conclusions from them.

3. It took me 6 months, yes. Will it take you six months? Beats me. Practice until it works. If it takes you a week, cool, if it takes you six months, cool, if it takes you 3 years, cool. Just do it!

SKainuiG asks on April 28, 2004, 3:01am:

Is it possible to make items phase? Like I spin a quarter and do something with a construct or psychometry to make it only touch the table and make everything else go through it. So the quarter would be feeling the pain instead of the person? I don't know if that exactly sounds right, but what do you think?

Rainsong replies on April 28, 2004, 12:59pm:

Yes, it is possible. It has been done. Before you ask, no, I don't know how to do it and therefore will not teach it.

Kyuhan asks on April 21, 2004, 8:59am:

When phasing, Rainsong wrote that it was very painful, couldn't this be overcome with the discipline that certain Yogi's and other mentalists use of turning off the body's pain receptors?

Rainsong replies on April 21, 2004, 9:30pm:

That is a reasonable question. Fact is, I can "turn off" the sensation of pain in my body, under most circumstances. However, in my experience, every bit of concentration and effort was needed to extricate myself from the phasing problem. Pain-blocking was an "extra" that I simply could not "afford".

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SNESster3 asks on April 16, 2004, 1:52pm:

Is there such a thing as phasing safely? Also, would you be hurt if you phased through something like a curtain on a stage or a giant piece of paper? Or perhaps even through the bars of a cage?

Rainsong replies on April 21, 2004, 12:58am:

Safely? Phasing safely? Sure, if you do it the way Peebrain and Annie did for their April Fools' joke, or the way "Shadowcat" does on the X-man movie: trick photography. Otherwise, no, it is no safer than any other large-scale psychokinetic effect, and rather less so than most.

FrozenFlames asks on April 1, 2004, 12:32pm:

In the area of talking to your subconcious, can you help me? I don't know how to go about it even after reading the article. I ask questions but after about five questions I don't know what else to ask. "Am I hungry, how am i feeling, am i tired, can i have some advise, say something wise, and what time is it" is all i can come up with. I think many people are having similair problems on not knowing what else to ask.

Peebrain replies on April 15, 2004, 9:55pm:

Well, start asking about your friends, maybe. "What do you think about John?". Or "Do you think Linda was lieing to me?". Or "Where do you suppose Jimmy is right now?". Or ask about your body: "What types of food should I be eating?". "How much sleep should I get tonight?". Or entertainment... "Will I like that movie?"... or whatever. What do you want to know? Or how about this one, "What questions should I be asking you?"

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Silver_Eyes asks on April 6, 2004, 1:35am:

I understand what biofeedback is, kind of. From the (admittedly small amount of) research that I've done I got a bit confused. I saw a picture on one of the sites that I visited with a picture of a kid with electrodes stuck to his forehead. Is this a practice that requires machinery?

Also

Do you know of any good articles anywhere that give a decent enough platform for me to attempt to learn this art?

Thanks
Silver Eyes

Peebrain replies on April 9, 2004, 10:00am:

You don't need machinery for biofeedback. Maybe for more scientific results, with something you can measure, but for general "messing around trying it out", you don't need extra stuff - just a body .

What art? The art of psionics? Good articles are at articles.html . For the art of biofeedback? There might be some stuff scattered in the articles on PsiPog... do a search for "biofeedback". If not, check out other places like PSC (in the links section). Or just Google.

BLooDyRaVeN asks on April 6, 2004, 2:05am:

Hello everyone, I've been practicing AP for a while now and haven't had any luck.Well, I guess my question is, how do you know when you are fully-projected so that you can start moving around.And also, I want to know how your suppose to "see" and "move" in your second body.

--Jessa

Peebrain replies on April 9, 2004, 9:58am:

There are two ways that I figure out when I'm out of body: 1. I feel crazy vibrations and loud rings, then I can feel myself float away from my body, or 2. I don't really know, but I can figure out by sticking my hand through something, or by floating lightly. You have a feeling of weightlessness which can help you figure it out.

For your second question - movement is pretty easy, use your willpower, or "walk", or sometimes when I get stuck I use weird visualizations to "convince" myself to move, like jet packs stuck to my back or something weird like that . As for sight, that took me a while to get the hang of... First work on getting out and moving around, then work on sight. Don't worry about it for now.

SKainuiG asks on March 31, 2004, 12:47am:

Is deja vu precognatively seeing something you were going to think in the future? If not, what is deja vu?

Rainsong replies on March 31, 2004, 12:26pm:

"Deja vu" is the (usually startling) recognition that you have seen or otherwise experienced a situation before. Quite a lot of the time, it is nothing more than "something" in the situation being very like an earlier event that you don't quite remember the specifics of. That earlier event might be real, or it might be a scene from a book or movie. Sometimes, it is the sudden realisation that a precognitive dream --forgotten until that moment-- is playing out in real life. Other times, the circumstances are something else again; they are not all easily pidgen-holed. The fact that memories aren't quite so unchangeable as people commonly believe complicates matters considerably.

Short version, though: most of the time, reported incidents of "deja vu" have nothing to do with actual precog.

Pally asks on March 27, 2004, 11:14am:

Rainsong.

You said in one of your articles that phasing is dangerous and it could kill us.

Has anyone ever died because of this? If not, Then why do you think it's dangerous?

Pain only indicates the damage taken, It wont define it.
Is it possible that phasing only stimulates nerves without actually doing any damage?

Rainsong replies on March 28, 2004, 6:44pm:

Has anyone died of it? Yes, _if_ the second-hand information I have is correct. I did not witness any of the deaths in question, and so I cannot swear to the accuracy of the information. It is most unlikely to be any safer than any other large-scale PK effect. (Obviously, I did not die of it.)

As for actual damage caused, some of the damage is easily observable, mainly in deformation of bone structures.

no_one_2000 asks on March 25, 2004, 11:29pm:

I found a few sites on the internet providing audio files for download that guaranteed an OBE within 8-10 minutes, or your money back. I had a few questions about this, since it made me curious.

1) Does this really work? Could you really have an OBE just by focusing and listnening to some mp3 on your computer? And if so, and it is really that easy, how come it takes most people six months to learn how to do an OBE without it?

2) Would using this method of inducing OBEs help or hinder your ability to have an OBE the "normal" way? Like, if you used the computerized method enough, would you become accustomed to that and only be able to do it that way, or would that get you used to it enough so that you will be able to do it the regular way? (Sorry if that didn't make sense :-\)

3) Finally, do you recommend such a thing? What are your opinions on this? I'd never seen anything like this mentioned before around here, so this was all new to me, and before thinking of looking into something like this, I thought it would be better to get some thoughts on all of it.

Thank you for answering the question :) Oh, and if you're wondering where I found these sites, go to google.com and type in <I>OBE</I>. Four were listed, just on the right side of the page where the ads are.

Rainsong replies on March 26, 2004, 12:18am:

Specially-designed recordings can indeed induce various altered states quickly and without much effort. However, there are sometimes abreactions ranging from headache to grand mal seizure. Several cause hallucinations, especially the "guided imagery" kind, but I would be very surprised if any of them force a verifiable "OBE".

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